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Hello,

Thank you all for your continued prayer and financial support of my ministry! If you are able to set up a recurring monthly donation this would really be helpful to me and my ministry. You may set this up with your bank using BillPay or you can set up a PayPal account. Your financial contributions are so appreciated!

Haven Ministries is hosting a Christmas Open House at the home of Bill and Terri Honsberger for all of our supporters. Please join us on Saturday, 12/7, anytime between 2:00-4:30 p.m. The address is 24563 East Crestridge Place, Aurora, CO 80016

Please call me cell phone if you have trouble finding it: 730-335-7223.

Also, I am going to start sending out my monthly newsletter via snail mail. If you would prefer this format please send your request to me at TrevorMack@comcast.net.

Mormon:

I am currently talking with a Mormon Sister Missionary named Gloria. As I talk with her I see how the LDS Church has changed their beliefs throughout history. Early Latter Day Saints (LDS) believed in the doctrine of the trinity, as many of them were coming out of protestant beliefs. They later taught that they were separate beings and then they taught that God was once a man on another planet before being exalted to Godhood.

Gloria believes that we can become a God. What does the Bible say about this? The most popular passage is Isaiah 43:10 which says, “"You are my witnesses," declares the Lord, "and my servant whom I have chosen, that you may know and believe me and understand that I am he. Before me no god was formed, nor shall there be any after me” Isaiah 43:10 ESV. A good article talking about only one God existing can be found here along with some LDS quotes on the changing views of god in LDS theology. 

As I continue to talk with Gloria on this important conversation please pray she will see the true nature of God.

Baha’i:

My weekly Baha’i book study has been cancelled for three weeks in a row, unfortunately. Even though I am not doing a weekly study with them I am still talking with several people who are of the Baha’I faith. I asked a Baha’i friend if he knew any former Baha’is who are now Christians. I expected a simple yes or no answer, but I received a long text message from him:

Frankly Trevor, this doesn’t happen. At least in my 46 years in the Faith I have not seen it. Of course, people do leave the Faith sometimes for their own personal reasons (for example, not following the laws or a hurtful encounter with another Bahá’í) but I NEVER hear of people rejecting Baha’u’llah in order to acquire Christ. It doesn’t make any sense because a Baha’i is someone also already has a deep faith connection to Jesus. Why would a rational person give up something precious like faith in Baha’u’llah in order to acquire something they ALREADY have? Huh? It’s like me asking you if you would give up Jesus today in order to acquire faith in Moses? As a Christian you already have a strong connection to Moses (or at least you should). Would that transaction make any sense to you? In the same way, your question doesn’t make sense to a Baha’i. In fact your question implies a deeper judgement. Assuming you’re intelligent and rational, you can only ask that question if in your heart of hearts you feel a Bahá’í doesn’t have a valid faith in Christ. So, I read your question, and I detect a judgement that you in your own mind disallow all our repeated statements and our Writings that we do have Christ. In your mind, you negate my faith in Jesus. And you negate the faith in Jesus of every Bahá’í. You think it’s your way or no way. Otherwise you could not rationally ask your question. So be it. If only you could see the implications of what you’re asking! Frankly Trevor, you’re so embedded in your own evangelical Christian framework that you don’t seem able to understand or appreciate the Baha’i framework. Let me tell you this as a friend. Unless you step outside of yourself and in particular leave behind the constraints and programming of the church, understanding the Baha’i Faith properly will continue to elude you.

While I have not responded to his message yet because I do not believe he is ready to hear the truth as he has demonstrated over the past year; it is important to address what he has said.

I do not believe Baha’is have a valid faith in Christ. Is it judgmental for me to think this? Of course not because the apostle Paul warns of a counterfeit Jesus, “For if someone comes and proclaims another Jesus than the one we proclaimed, or if you receive a different spirit from the one you received, or if you accept a different gospel from the one you accepted, you put up with it readily enough” 2 Corinthians 11:4 ESV.

Jesus also warns of false prophets, like Baha’u’llah, the founder of the Baha’i faith, “"Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing but inwardly are ravenous wolves. You will recognize them by their fruits. Are grapes gathered from thorn bushes, or figs from thistles? So, every healthy tree bears good fruit, but the diseased tree bears bad fruit. A healthy tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a diseased tree bear good fruit. Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. Thus you will recognize them by their fruits” Matthew 7:15-20.

As Christians we are to expose false prophets such as Baha’u’llah. I am not being a bigot because God has said I have to use righteous judgement, “Do not judge by appearances, but judge with right judgment"” John 7:24 ESV. Please send me a message if you would like to learn more about the life of Baha’u’llah and how I can help you with witnessing the Baha’is on using their own teachings. Is it my way or the highway as he says? No, I play no part in my destiny. It is the way of Jesus or eternal damnation. Jesus said, "I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me” John 14:6 ESV.

Confirmed trips:

  • April 2nd-6th for General Conference

  • Mid July for the Hill of Cumorah Pageant Dates TBD

  • Early to mid-August to Independence, Missouri to the many Mormon denominations

Possible Trip:

  • Washington, D.C. LDS rededication Dates TBD

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